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Two Performance issues - Set list scrolling and Multi-route audio

Started by Danno, June 02, 2025, 07:08:00 AM

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Danno

Hello all,

So I have been using BH for a while now and when gigging I have two issues that I need some assistance on:

First, I use split view to drive tracks and lights from behind the drum set. Lately, my song list started scrolling down on me during the performance, so it becomes difficult to scroll back to find my place in the set.. this takes time and stalls the performance - and it only seems to happen on my iPad.. any thoughts on a setting to fix this? Note-the autoscroll works fine in the lyrics side of the split view.. This is the left hand side where the set list is shown.

Second, I started setting up a second recording for cues - this works fine, however I have been having issues with multi audio routing..  Details - I use a lightning to USB adapter connected to a Mackie USB stereo direct box for two sends to the main mixer (one for FOH and one for in-ear cues) - I also take the headphone out into a personal mixer for my in-ears (click track). I am finding during show setup that sometimes headphone jack overrides the USB or vice versa and then have to argue with BH to get both functional, which can be very stressful right before a show. Any thoughts on how I can better set this up (and not take years off my life)?

arlo

1. You can turn off Settings > Advanced > General > Auto-Scroll Song List.

2. Did you turn on Settings > Audio & MIDI > Audio Options > Multi-Route Audio and then set the desired channels for your audio files?

P.S. In the future, please create a separate post for each topic.

Danno

Thanks Arlo!

Item 1 - Resolved!
Item 2 - I did have it set correctly. It's an odd one as it is sporadic - I had issues last gig, but I was able to  resolve it by restarting BH. I have ordered a new cable - I know lightning connectors can be super finicky.

Apologies.. I'll definitely will break out issues next time  ;D

arlo

What is in the audio files you're trying to play and to what output channels are you trying to assign each file?

Danno

Currently I've been using 2 recordings and routing them as follows:

Recording 1 Left (FOH mix) - MDB-USB 1 (Left)
Recording 1 right (Click) - Headphone left

Recording 1 also has a MIDI tied to it which drives our lighting via Photon2

Recording 2 left (Band in-ear cues) - MDB-USB 2 (right)
Recording 2 right (Band in-ear cues) - Headphone left

Recording 2 is typically mono

USB Output goes to a Mackie MDB-USB direct box

Again this usually works fine, but Murphy's law always kicks in when you don't have time to fart around with connections.. ;)

arlo

It seems confusing the way you're splitting both recordings across both audio interfaces. It also seems confusing to send the same data ("Band in-ear cues") to two outputs, and to send two kinds of data ("Recording 1 right (Click)" and "Recording 2 right (Band in-ear cues)" to the same output ("Headphone left") -- but maybe the latter is a typo and should read "Headphone right." I don't know if any of those things is actually a problem, but for me personally it makes it kind of hard to wrap my head around what you're doing.

I think it would be more logical to combine the click track and cues into one channel and the backing track into the other channel of a single stereo file. Then you wouldn't need multi-route audio. Or if you wanted a stereo backing track, or separate outputs for click and cues, you could have the backing track as one stereo file and the click and cues as another stereo file. Then you'd need multi-route audio but one audio interface could go to FOH and the other to your IEM system.

Getting back to the problem, can you clarify what you mean by "headphone jack overrides the USB or vice versa"? What specifically is happening that shouldn't happen?

Danno

Sorry for the confusion, but it is a bit complicated.. The original tracks were only for me to sync lights and backing tracks - we added the cue track for the rest of the band so I wouldn't have to click them in on every song (and they cried like babies about having click all the time). This is why I have the crazy audio routing..

I am thinking about ditching the MDB-USB and connecting to my X-Air 18 as it is self powered (not powered by the iPad over USB, which I think may be part of the problem). That way I can pick the channels I want and route them from the mixer without having to use the headphone jack at all.  Alternatively, I'm thinking adding a powered USB hub could help.