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Geoff

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Quick access to documents from "Songs" listing?
« on: May 25, 2019, 07:55:58 AM »
In an earlier version of the ios app, I used to be able to quickly open a document associated with a song (I use MS Word docs for chords/lyrics) by tapping on the document icon that appeared in each entry in the "Songs" list under "Repertoire". But this seems to have gone away. Of course I can tap on a song, scroll down, and tap on the doc icon from within the song details - but it's not as quick and easy that way. I need speed in a performance situation.

Please: Is there a way to set things up to get back to having per-song doc icons visible from the main "Songs" list?

(I know I can simply make a setlist with all active songs, and get fast access to docs from there; but this route doesn't have the search box at the top, so it means a lot of scrolling in a long list of active songs...)
« Last Edit: May 25, 2019, 09:08:23 AM by Geoff »

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Re: Quick access to documents from "Songs" listing?
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2019, 09:26:35 AM »
The Repertoire > Songs list is designed for setting up your songs, and moving the buttons to the song edit pages allows you to more easily preview those functions while editing.

To view a song's info in a performance or rehearsal situation, it's better to use a set list or smart list, where the buttons are bigger and customizable.

If you want access to all songs, you should use a smart list instead of manually adding all songs to a set list. With a smart list, new songs will be added automatically, or you can automatically filter the list with rules you provide. The sort field you select groups the songs and adds shortcuts to jump between groups, which is usually faster than typing in a search term. If you do want to search, you can instead use a set list and use the Quick Add button, which has a search field.

See also the FAQ "HOW CAN I ADD OR REARRANGE MY SONGS WHILE PERFORMING A SET LIST":

http://www.bandhelper.com/support/FAQ.html

And the tutorial on smart lists:

http://www.bandhelper.com/tutorials/building_smart_lists.html

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Re: Quick access to documents from "Songs" listing?
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2019, 09:36:49 AM »
Thanks.

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Re: Quick access to documents from "Songs" listing?
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2019, 11:02:16 PM »
I just posted to this forum a plea for help in addressing a serious problem I am having since the last BH update, and I think it is either similar to or identical to the issue described by this user. 

One problem with accessing songs via a smartlist (for me, at least), instead of via the "Songs" listing, is that there is no way (that I am aware of) to search within a smartlist.  So -- say I am in a song session where someone just sang a song about horses, and I want to follow it with a song I have about horses, but I can't remember the title.  What I usually do is quickly search the Songs listing for "horse" and get results that show all my songs with that word.  I can then quickly click on the song that I want, and then pull up the lyrics (or the document) without having to exit and then go find the song in a smart list. 

My use of Bandhelper has been seriously hampered since this change, and I am hoping I am overlooking some easy solution....

Thanks!

erawal

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Re: Quick access to documents from "Songs" listing?
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2019, 11:29:25 PM »
That's correct, you cannot currently search within a smart list. If you want to look up a song by title, you can use the letter shortcuts to jump to the desired section, which is usually faster than typing. But this doesn't allow you to search for a word in the lyrics or the tags, for example.

You can search in a set list by using the Quick Add button. I could include the Quick Add button in smart lists so you could use its search field there, too. In that case, clicking a song in the Quick Add popup would simply select it in the smart list, rather than adding it as it does in the set list view. I can put that on my to do list.

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Re: Quick access to documents from "Songs" listing?
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2019, 12:17:12 AM »
Arlo,

Thanks for your reply.  Enabling the ability to word search lyrics (not just titles) within the "Active Song"  SmartList would help -- is that what the effect would be of what you are describing (adding a Quick Add feature to Smartlists?).

I know you have a lot on your plate, but I am really hoping for a quick solution!  I appreciate that you keep striving to improve the app, and realize that different users have different priorities, but I really want to stress what a setback it is for me to have the updated version of BH remove the ability to access lyrics/documents from the Songs view.  Accessing lyrics on the fly after a word search has been a very important feature of BH.   

Would you consider adding back the lyrics/document buttons back to the "Songs" view?  If not, I'd be super appreciative of your getting that word search function working within individual Smart Lists. 

Thank you!

-erawal

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Re: Quick access to documents from "Songs" listing?
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2019, 12:26:39 AM »
The document buttons were not removed from the Repertoire > Songs area, they were moved to the individual song edit pages. This is better for editing, which is what this part of the app is meant for. I think any changes aimed at making this part of the app better for performing would be a step in the wrong direction.