Trying to use BandHelper to change patches on a Roland SPD SX

[Dazzathedrummer]

Hi,

I'm struggling to get BandHelper to send program changes to my SPDSX.

I'm using an iPad with non-Apple equivalent of the camera kit (which definitely works for midi as I've been using it with a controller keyboard and Moog apps).

I've got BH set to ch10 and the SPDSX set to ch10. I don't think I understand what the Midi Presets are for and what needs to go into them for BH to send the right message?
I set up a preset called SPDSX with SPDSX selected in Program Changes - I've put 000 000 000 in there but know idea if that's correct.
On one of my songs i've put 019 as the midi song number but nothing happens if I hit the midi button.

I've read through a lot of posts on here but I still don't know what I'm doing! ...I have MainStage and Ableton to test if midi is being sent if needed.
I simply want to change the program/patch on the SPDSX from BandHelper rather than re-ordering the SPDSX patches for every gig.

[arlo]

You'll first need to find out what MIDI messages you need to send to the SPD SX. The best place to find that is usually in its user manual, but you might find it on a Roland forum or maybe someone who has one will chime in here.

Then you'll enter those messages into MIDI presets, and attach the MIDI presets to your songs, as described here:

https://www.bandhelper.com/tutorials/sending_MIDI.html

[Dazzathedrummer]

Thanks Arlo.

Does that mean I need a preset for every patch?

[arlo]

Yes, but if multiple songs use the same patch, they can use the same preset.

[honeytownevents]

Thanks Arlo.

Does that mean I need a preset for every patch?

Hey hopefully you've got this sorted at this point but if not im happy to help! Ive got my SPD-SX Pro fully mapped and automated to follow the song selection on the bandhelper setlist

basically you need three fundamental things on bandhelper for this to work.

Midi device -  SPD-SX - Default ch.10  confirm if youre in 0-127 or 1-128 mode.

Midi Presets - Every single SPD-SX "kit"/bandhelper song will need its own midi preset and program change numbers entered.
SPD-SX midi program changes all begin with 32 in box 1, box two is 0 for the first 0-127 kits but however needs to be a 1 instead for kits 128-200. Box 3 is the kit number    personal examples: 32-0-000 equals kit 1, And 32-1-0 = kit 129

The preset then has to be assigned to a song in bandhelper so its a good idea to save the preset by song name so its easy to find in the midi/preset menu

From there you will have to make a couple changes in the settings menu on the device you're using so that the change happens upon song selection but you can test each preset for functionality by tapping the midi icon next to the preset name.