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Questions about full screen lyric layouts

Started by Insider0203, June 02, 2025, 08:36:05 AM

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Insider0203

Hi Arlo,

I currently use a Split View layout as my main layout. I feel like this is the best way for my band to use Bandhelper as it pretty much shows all the essential information automatically.

However, there are times where I want a full screen document. Previous versions of Bandhelper had a simple double tap on any document to make it full screen. However, this is being phased out as it's apparently an inherent source of bugs.

The alternative suggested is to just make a separate layout for full screen documents. However, I have found that this approach has two main issues...

1. It is much slower. It takes several seconds to load a new layout. Even once the new layout is visible, the screen is frozen for a moment before it fully loads and is fully usable. This can be a little disorienting, especially mid performance. The amount of time probably varies from device to device and also may have to do with the fact that my band has exceptionally large setlists. But nonetheless, it was much quicker when bandhelper only had to load the full screen version of one document rather than a whole new layout.

2. Getting to a full screen doc now requires a minimum of two actions. I have only two active layouts: split screen and full screen lyrics. I set up an app control action for three finger tap to switch between layouts. The three finger tap switches layouts no problem, albeit slowly. However, the full screen lyrics layout always displays the song list first. You must then reselect the song to see close the song list and then view the lyrics, adding an additional gesture, and also more time to the process. I have discovered a work around for this. It involves making a layout with the song list on top, but then making the songlist as small as possible so it's not visible. This is very cumbersome and not intuitive.


Those are the two main issues I've encountered. Perhaps I'm missing something and maybe there is a way to quickly switch to a full screen doc with just one gesture. But that brings me to just a more general comment: the layout designer is rather confusing. I have become pretty familiar with it but certain things still confuse me. It's not clear why the song list disappears or the document viewer appears in one layout or another. Also, there seems to be a third layering option that's only available through using one of the templates. The overlapping buttons template puts the buttons and fields on top of the document viewer. There doesn't seem to be a way to create this without using the template.

Any advice or insight would be appreciated. I'm probably just missing something because I'm always surprised to find something new that bandhelper can do.