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#81
Repertoire Help / Re: Third sound for metronome?
Last post by Mahlon - April 09, 2024, 10:22:17 PMTrying that solution, and for some reason what's happening is I start the song any there is no subdivision (I set it for 8ths) but then I tap the song title to stop the metronome and restart it and the 8th subdivisions magically appears at the reduced volume. Weird. Trying to get the quarter note subdivision to work too and that's making no difference at all.
While you are sorting out the volume bug for the next update though, the initial reason I posted was to petition for the ability to choose a separate sound for the subdivision, which might make the metronome function in a more flexible capacity for many other professional (and non-professional) acts as well.
Thanks for getting back to me (us) about this.
While you are sorting out the volume bug for the next update though, the initial reason I posted was to petition for the ability to choose a separate sound for the subdivision, which might make the metronome function in a more flexible capacity for many other professional (and non-professional) acts as well.
Thanks for getting back to me (us) about this.
#82
Repertoire Help / Re: Using Stream Deck?
Last post by NeilS - April 09, 2024, 03:18:17 PMJust for a laugh I've input this text to StreamDeck to make sure it works correctly for outputting text like a keyboard.
And yes the above was input from steamdeck. I don't know if that helps but there it is.
Thank you for your work on this Arlo
And yes the above was input from steamdeck. I don't know if that helps but there it is.
Thank you for your work on this Arlo
#83
Repertoire Help / Re: Third sound for metronome?
Last post by arlo - April 09, 2024, 02:47:52 PMIt looks like the Subdivision Volume slider isn't triggering a save needed so then the change doesn't save when you leave that page. I'll put that on my to do list for the next update. Meanwhile, you could change the Subdivision Volume, then turn on Background Flash to trigger the save needed, then turn off Background Flash again, then leave the page. Does that resolve it?
#84
Repertoire Help / Third sound for metronome?
Last post by Mahlon - April 09, 2024, 09:29:12 AMAsking this for my drummer.
We use BH on our Apple iPads onstage, we do not run tracks. We play a lot of synth-based 80's pop and BH manages the CC/PC midi changes for our HX pedals and the keyboard as well as pulling up different drum trigger sounds for the drummer based on what song is selected, so if we play a Prince song, the kick and snare going to FOH are triggering Linn drum samples mixed in as well as changing the electronic kit sounds on his SPDSX. If we are going to a Tom Petty song after that, the drum sound is just his natural shells and no one has to touch anything or fiddle with anything in between songs. It's all being controlled by bluetooth, which is ingenious, but also introduces some latency.
We use IEM's and our drummer cheats the latency issue by running audio from his iPad directly to a mixer that goes to our main mix that sends his click/tempo from his Bandhelper app on his iPad to our individual IEM monitor mixes.
What he's been doing though has been to set the tempos in our songs at 2/4 and double the time (so a song that's 120bpm runs at 240) because he can't get the different available sounds for the click to work quite right. We've been fiddling with it for awhile, and this is the best solution we have found thusfar, but what I'm worried about is if the tempo of the song is 150bpm and a tempo of 300bpm is being sent, then the delay or tremolo or whatever effect for whatever song being performed now has to be set to go in half time on all of our other processor pedals and the keyboard.
We will set our effects for dotted 8th or 1/4 or whatever depending on what the song is because many of those 80's songs created on electronic instruments in the 80's were all digitally time-sync'd in the studio and it's just "wrong" if the guitar that is supposed to be a big, wide delay sound is suddenly repeating twice as fast. This is sent to our devices from our bluetooth MIDI that is controlled by BH on song selection.
My drummer is asking if there is some way we can generate a separate 3rd sound for "subdivision" as well as "click" sound and "downbeat." Currently, we can have a click sound and a downbeat sound, but in many situations if it is set at 4/4 it has this awful mechanical "click click click BANG click click click BANG" feel in 4/4, so he's been putting into a 2 feel and doubling the time so there are just the 2 alternating sounds every other beat. (So more like: "click, bang, click, bang, click, bang...)
Also there seems to be some kind of bug where the volume of the subdivision just returns to the same volume of the click. I was hoping we could use that feature and just have the subdivision be a lower volume, but the volume doesn't remain lowered and as soon as you change to the next song, the volume for the click and the subdivision go right back to the same volume, which is another reason we've been having to use 2/4 in double time and not use a subdivision at all.
Thanks in advance. If this question has already been addressed elsewhere, please provide a link to that thread if possible. I searched but didn't come up with anything that seemed to address our issues.
Our devices for reference:
Apple iPads
Line 6 HX Stomp/Helix
Roland SPDSX pro (whichever the newest one is, he just updated to the newest one)
Kurzweil PC4 keyboard.
CME Widimasters
We use BH on our Apple iPads onstage, we do not run tracks. We play a lot of synth-based 80's pop and BH manages the CC/PC midi changes for our HX pedals and the keyboard as well as pulling up different drum trigger sounds for the drummer based on what song is selected, so if we play a Prince song, the kick and snare going to FOH are triggering Linn drum samples mixed in as well as changing the electronic kit sounds on his SPDSX. If we are going to a Tom Petty song after that, the drum sound is just his natural shells and no one has to touch anything or fiddle with anything in between songs. It's all being controlled by bluetooth, which is ingenious, but also introduces some latency.
We use IEM's and our drummer cheats the latency issue by running audio from his iPad directly to a mixer that goes to our main mix that sends his click/tempo from his Bandhelper app on his iPad to our individual IEM monitor mixes.
What he's been doing though has been to set the tempos in our songs at 2/4 and double the time (so a song that's 120bpm runs at 240) because he can't get the different available sounds for the click to work quite right. We've been fiddling with it for awhile, and this is the best solution we have found thusfar, but what I'm worried about is if the tempo of the song is 150bpm and a tempo of 300bpm is being sent, then the delay or tremolo or whatever effect for whatever song being performed now has to be set to go in half time on all of our other processor pedals and the keyboard.
We will set our effects for dotted 8th or 1/4 or whatever depending on what the song is because many of those 80's songs created on electronic instruments in the 80's were all digitally time-sync'd in the studio and it's just "wrong" if the guitar that is supposed to be a big, wide delay sound is suddenly repeating twice as fast. This is sent to our devices from our bluetooth MIDI that is controlled by BH on song selection.
My drummer is asking if there is some way we can generate a separate 3rd sound for "subdivision" as well as "click" sound and "downbeat." Currently, we can have a click sound and a downbeat sound, but in many situations if it is set at 4/4 it has this awful mechanical "click click click BANG click click click BANG" feel in 4/4, so he's been putting into a 2 feel and doubling the time so there are just the 2 alternating sounds every other beat. (So more like: "click, bang, click, bang, click, bang...)
Also there seems to be some kind of bug where the volume of the subdivision just returns to the same volume of the click. I was hoping we could use that feature and just have the subdivision be a lower volume, but the volume doesn't remain lowered and as soon as you change to the next song, the volume for the click and the subdivision go right back to the same volume, which is another reason we've been having to use 2/4 in double time and not use a subdivision at all.
Thanks in advance. If this question has already been addressed elsewhere, please provide a link to that thread if possible. I searched but didn't come up with anything that seemed to address our issues.
Our devices for reference:
Apple iPads
Line 6 HX Stomp/Helix
Roland SPDSX pro (whichever the newest one is, he just updated to the newest one)
Kurzweil PC4 keyboard.
CME Widimasters
#85
MIDI Help / Re: Colour code midi presets
Last post by Ahiru - April 09, 2024, 09:23:54 AMThe MIDI preset colors appearing on the automation track edit page is great! This will be a real timesaver when editing an extensive automation. Thanks!
#86
Repertoire Help / Re: Adding document into Lyric...
Last post by Krouch - April 09, 2024, 04:17:30 AMQuote from: arlo on April 05, 2024, 02:09:25 PMInserting small images into the Lyrics field is on my to do list for the coming months. I'll let you know if I'm able to do it.
ok, thx, sounds great
#87
Repertoire Help / Re: A workaround this Bluetoot...
Last post by arlo - April 08, 2024, 11:50:11 PMI would suggest using the Line Ins on the mixer, but it looks like those are the same as channels 5-6 on that product. (Usually the line ins are separate from the mic/instrument inputs.) Running backing tracks through Bluetooth would scare me, but maybe it's reliable enough to not be an issue.
Does Settings > Audio & MIDI > Delay Recording 1 have the desired effect?
Does Settings > Audio & MIDI > Delay Recording 1 have the desired effect?
#88
Repertoire Help / A workaround this Bluetooth is...
Last post by Graeme Hague - April 08, 2024, 09:43:42 PMAll my backing tracks are recordings created by myself and uploaded to sync with Bandhelper. All good, works brilliant. However, recently I've bought an ElectroVoice EV 50M PA system that allows me to play back BH and those backing tracks via Bluetooth, letting me "save" two channels on the 50M mixer.
My problem is the slight Bluetooth lag means I often miss the first "click" of my four-count count-in. One solution would be to add a second or two of silence in front of every recording, but that's over 70 tracks and a huge task.
I'm wondering if there's any setting in BH which, although not designed to solve this, might inadvertently fix the problem? Something that delays the playback long enough to allow the Bluetooth to kick in?
Thanks for any ideas.
My problem is the slight Bluetooth lag means I often miss the first "click" of my four-count count-in. One solution would be to add a second or two of silence in front of every recording, but that's over 70 tracks and a huge task.
I'm wondering if there's any setting in BH which, although not designed to solve this, might inadvertently fix the problem? Something that delays the playback long enough to allow the Bluetooth to kick in?
Thanks for any ideas.
#89
Repertoire Help / Re: Using Stream Deck?
Last post by arlo - April 08, 2024, 01:37:08 PMI tried another approach, but no luck. I think there is a bug in Big Sur that underlies both the methods I have tried.
#90
MIDI Help / Re: Colour code midi presets
Last post by arlo - April 07, 2024, 01:20:54 PMIn the new version 2024-04-06 released today, the MIDI preset colors will appear in the single MIDI button popup, the multiple MIDI buttons, the event list on the automation track edit page and the MIDI selection popup from the automation track edit page. Hopefully this won't be too much color all over! Of course this will only take effect if you have set colors for your MIDI presets.