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arlo

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Set List Maker vs. BandHelper
« on: January 26, 2016, 09:22:59 AM »
Someone asked if I was planning to phase out Set List Maker in favor of the newer BandHelper. The answer is that I plan to continue developing and supporting Set List Maker as long as people keep buying it. However, I would happily discontinue Set List Maker if every Set List Maker user switched to BandHelper! Here are some advantages BandHelper offers both for me and its users:

  • I sell BandHelper directly to users rather than selling it through an app store. This eliminates problems like Google's licensing server occasionally going down and locking people out of the app, and Apple's in-app purchase system occasionally going down and preventing upgrade purchases. This also allows me to offer free trial periods and referral discounts, and allows bands to get access for all their members with one purchase.
  • BandHelper syncs data from the moment you set up your account, rather than retroactively syncing if you set up this optional feature in Set List Maker. This leads to far fewer syncing issues, with automatic and complete cloud backups of all your data. And since BandHelper relies less on your device's file storage functions, it can sync recordings and documents along with your text-based data, mirroring your entire account across devices effortlessly. Update: in January 2018, Set List Maker's sync function was reduced to a simple, manual database import/export function, leaving BandHelper as the only option for automatic syncing between devices.
  • BandHelper has a full user account system, rather than everyone sharing the same sync name and password. This gives users more options for managing personal versus shared versions of songs, and gives band leaders options for managing permissions or disconnecting former band members.
  • Mobile devices are great on stage and in the rehearsal room, but computers are usually better for serious data entry. BandHelper's web interface allows you to switch between your devices and your computer seamlessly, and offers batch-update and batch-delete functions to help stay organized.

And that's just for Basic accounts! Pro accounts add a whole new set of features for managing your band's schedule, contacts and finances. Here's a comparison chart: http://www.bandhelper.com/main/SLM_comparison.html
« Last Edit: January 18, 2018, 11:30:29 AM by arlo »

Mykimus

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Re: Set List Maker vs. BandHelper
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2016, 05:11:52 PM »
Before I begin (and as a matter of full disclosure), it is true that I currently work part-time for Arlo helping to support SetListMaker and BandHelper. But let's put all of that aside for a moment...because long before I was hired by Arlo, I was a dedicated user of both of these apps.

I started using SetListMaker shortly after purchasing my first iPad, which would have probably been around three or four years ago. At that point, I had tried every sheet music and set list management tool available on the App Store at that time. (Yes...seriously...I tried them ALL.) SetListMaker was far and away the ONLY candidate that provided the flexibility and features I really wanted...along with quite a few I didn't even know I needed.

Fast forward a few years to when Arlo asked me to participate in the beta test for the not-yet-released BandHelper service. From the moment I started using BandHelper, I haven't looked back. It literally does everything that SetListMaker does...plus full cloud sync...plus the ability to share and sync all of your songs, documents, etc. with your band members...plus browser-based editing and entry capabilities...yup.

The service has been simply amazing for my band. (Although that first year or so was personally a little rough for me because my Android-wielding compadres were REALLY jealous of my BandHelper-enabled iPad-fu! Now that there is a native Android app, we can all share the BandHelper love together!) But seriously...if you're still using SetListMaker, you owe it to yourself to at least check out BandHelper. If not for the ability to keep the whole band's repertoire collateral in sync, then for the cloud sync and web-based editing and data entry capabilities.

It'll be worth it...trust me...


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Re: Set List Maker vs. BandHelper
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2016, 09:34:15 PM »
I have been an active user of Set List Maker for many years and love it. It has all the functionality I need, although I'm not averse to trying Bandhelper. If I decided to make the change to Bandhelper, would there be any cost involved? This is important to me because, as a recently retired gentleman, I need to watch every penny!... 😉

Thx, Dave

arlo

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Re: Set List Maker vs. BandHelper
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2016, 09:07:07 AM »
If I decided to make the change to Bandhelper, would there be any cost involved?

Yes, BandHelper pricing is listed here:

http://www.bandhelper.com/main/pricing.html

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Re: Set List Maker vs. BandHelper
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2017, 12:04:05 PM »
I've been using SLM for a couple of years now, and really live it! Last month I started the test phase of Bandhelper. The import of my database from SLM was easy, the menus nearly the same, so I could easily used it immediately on the next gig, 7hours, 80 Songs, without any problems. I like the option to manage it from a browser on my desktop, and it's easier to add/import documents and audios. I don't need those additional features for manage my band (schedule, finance, contacts or stage plots). If it's possible, I could imagine to test it at a later time for a while. That's the only point to criticize, in Bandhelper, that it's displayed although you cannot use it. So would appreciate it if it could be hidden automatically if it's not part of my package.
Nevertheless I already subscribed to Bandhelper and paid for another year.

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Re: Set List Maker vs. BandHelper
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2017, 08:00:47 PM »
We use Bandhelper for our band.
I also do a solo thing on the side.
I was told to just go ahead and pay one time for the Set List Maker.
Is that the main difference between the 2?
Pay once and no more charges or pay yearly for Bandhelper?

Good product,

Thanks.

arlo

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Re: Set List Maker vs. BandHelper
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2017, 10:25:23 PM »
The different pricing structure is one difference; the first post in this thread describes several more differences.

Do you own the account you're using for your band? If so, you can add another project to your account for your solo project for no additional cost.

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Re: Set List Maker vs. BandHelper
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2017, 02:54:02 PM »
Someone asked on another forum if there were any downsides to BandHelper compared to Set List Maker. Here's my response:

https://forum.fractalaudio.com/threads/set-list-maker-vs-bandhelper.115447/#post-1380318