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Transpose and choice of chord-names

Started by pheldal, October 27, 2019, 05:01:20 AM

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Am I the only  one who struggle with users with different preferences for chord-names sharing the same database? When transposing it makes a difference whether chords are written in this or that notation:

Throughout the world there are many different ways of naming notes. My region (northern europe) is split between using these two difference sequences of notes
A Bb B C    (known to me as "english notation", used in the UK/commonwealth and related nations)
A B H C     ("german notation", used in much of mainland Europe)

Transposing is messed up when transposing a song written in one notation in an app set to use the other.

It would be a lot better if BH always would use one notation internally and only use the others for input and rendering. I know this would be a huge job because it affects both data input and output with changes to both editing and display-code. That's the reason for seeking feedback here.

Normally people from one country would all be using the same notation and this wouldn't be an issue. However, there was a period of 10+ years in the early days of computer tools for music when most available tools only supported the UK/US version. Myself and others who got used to these tools thus changed our preference from what we had learned back in the pre-digital age.


I can put this on my wish list, but anyone else who finds this to be a problem can still weigh in here.


Hmm, this is not as easy as it appears according to what Pheldal writes. I'm German and make music in several bands, Schlager and Rock-Covers. No matter what kind of music, it's mostly that the guitar players call the chords the US/UK way: A - B flat - B - C. For me, being the keyboard player, a 'B' is an 'H' and a 'B flat' is a 'B'. More complex: pheldal speaks of mainland Europe having it the "German" way. I lived in Italy some years, and my band colleagues there called our 'H' resp. 'B' a 'Si' and our 'B' resp. 'B flat' a 'Si bemolle'. I can't imagine of any system to base the app on. Any other thought appreciated. Best regards.


Quote from: Tasten-Bert on October 29, 2019, 10:12:27 AM
Hmm, this is not as easy as it appears according to what Pheldal writes.
True. I'm over-simplifying, just touching the surface. No rules without exceptions it appears. I wasn't aware of further variations in europe, but I'm not schooled in classical music either. I described the problem as it appear from my narrow perspective. The ideal solution would probably involve a set of translation-schemes between the internal representation and what is chosen for display. There could be defaults based on language/nationality, but with an option to choose a specific scheme.