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Neill00

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Recalculate speed if overridden
« on: April 14, 2022, 06:54:15 AM »
I’ve read up on this on the tutorials and done some experimenting but I’m not sure if I have it straight quite yet on the best use of the feature.  With it turned off, if you adjust the lyrics on the screen the lyrics continue to scroll at the same speed so I’m thinking if the you find the reason you’re adjust lyrics on the screen is because the band started too late or if the band already started playing and you started the scroll late this would be the setting to use.

So is the “recalculate if overridden” the setting to use if you find that you have to adjust the scroll due to the tempo being off? ie; the band has sped up and the lyrics aren’t keeping up. Or would it have the opposite effect?  Do I have it backwards?  I’m getting old and I don’t think my brain was designed for this kind of deep thinking.


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Re: Recalculate speed if overridden
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2022, 11:09:47 AM »
Here are some guidelines:

- Recalculate off (default) - Best if the song duration changes because the band varies the arrangement, like adding extra solos. You can manually adjust the scroll position to get back to the right spot and then it will continue scrolling at the same speed as before. This is the default because I think this is what most people would expect to happen.

- Recalculate on - Best if the song duration is consistent (because both the tempo and arrangement are consistent) but the lyrics aren't evenly distributed within the song, like the lyrics get ahead due to a long solo in the middle. With this setting, the speed will increase or decrease as needed after a manual adjustment so the auto-scrolling still ends at the time time.

If the band plays at a different tempo than usual, it's better to have recalculate off even though you might have to manually adjust multiple times to keep on track. Recalculate on would work against you in that situation because it would keep trying to make the duration consistent even though the different tempo will lead to a different duration -- so you would end up making more and larger manual adjustments.

If the band starts late, the ideal solution is to reselect the song at that point so the auto-scrolling completely resets. The next best option would be to have recalculate off so you can make a single manual adjustment to get back on track.

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Re: Recalculate speed if overridden
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2022, 04:26:48 PM »
Thanks for that explanation… that clears it all up. 

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Re: Recalculate speed if overridden
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2022, 07:38:28 AM »
Hi Guys,

Sorry for jumping in here - it seems like the most suitable thread for my query....

QUOTE:  You can also control BandHelper's behavior when you override the auto-scroll position or pause and resume the auto-scrolling, with the Settings > General Settings > Auto-Scroll > Recalculate Speed If Overridden option. When turned on, BandHelper will adjust the scrolling speed to reach the bottom of your document or lyrics at the original end time of the song. When disabled, BandHelper will continue with the original scrolling speed and adjust the completion time of the song to match when you reach the bottom of the document.

This feature doesn't automatically update the duration of the song then, no? ..just the 'completion trigger' (for other connected actions....)

I was rather hoping that BH could 'Learn' (or fine tune) the Duration based on my 'live trials' and hence provide more accurate scrolling, and require less interence from me, going forward??
Not the case so - ?

Tony
« Last Edit: April 16, 2022, 07:40:33 AM by lowdencleere »

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Re: Recalculate speed if overridden
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2022, 08:29:48 AM »
BandHelper doesn't "learn" and adjust your saved song durations based on manual scroll overrides, and it doesn't trigger song completion actions from the end of the auto-scrolling. It does sound like that from the text you quoted, but I don't think it ever did work that way, and I should rewrite that.

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Re: Recalculate speed if overridden
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2022, 10:14:06 AM »
Thanks for the Clarification Arlo -

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Re: Recalculate speed if overridden
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2022, 08:55:17 PM »
I can see how you might get that idea.  But I understood it to mean it this way and I think if you have the scroll set to manual it’s easier to get the concept.  If you set the auto-scroll duration to 3:00 minutes and your lyrics are a total of 50 lines,  Bandhelper will calculate how fast to scroll to cover the 50 lines in that 3 minutes.  So if you have “recalculate speed if overridden” turned on, and you manually adjust the lyrics during a performance, the speed will be recalculated so that you still get to the end of those 50 lines in the original 3 minutes from when you started the scroll.  With it turned off, the scroll just sticks to the original speed that it started at.