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Set List Maker => MIDI Help => Topic started by: lbolen on June 16, 2016, 08:54:02 PM

Title: SMF support?
Post by: lbolen on June 16, 2016, 08:54:02 PM
Very cool! Hey I noticed in the top right of the forum it says SMF Just Installed...are you adding SMF (Standard Midi File) support?

Les  8)
Title: Re: SMF support?
Post by: arlo on June 16, 2016, 11:00:30 PM
No, that's a reference to the forum software, which is called Simple Machines Forum.
Title: Re: SMF support?
Post by: lbolen on June 17, 2016, 01:38:26 PM
Oh, :) understood.
Title: Re: SMF support?
Post by: HanKey2902 on November 03, 2016, 05:30:57 AM
It would be great for practising purposes to have a MIDI Player with soundfont integrated !
Title: Re: SMF support?
Post by: arlo on November 03, 2016, 01:06:07 PM
This is on my wish list and I'll add a vote for you. Meanwhile, you can link to other apps for MIDI playback, like Sweet MIDI Player:

http://forum.arlomedia.com/index.php/topic,933.msg2834.html
Title: Re: SMF support?
Post by: Merlimau26 on November 07, 2016, 11:30:01 AM
A MIDI Player with soundfont integrated would be great. Can you take my vote as well?
Title: Re: SMF support?
Post by: arlo on November 07, 2016, 03:21:35 PM
Yes, got it.
Title: Re: SMF support?
Post by: Kazbah on November 10, 2016, 12:30:44 PM
You can also add my vote.
Title: Re: SMF support?
Post by: arlo on November 11, 2016, 08:27:19 AM
Okay.
Title: Re: SMF support?
Post by: arlo on March 12, 2018, 04:58:14 PM
It looks like I can add this functionality, but we would need to load a SoundFont file to play the MIDI files with (iOS doesn't provide this). So, two questions:

1) Do you already have a source you would get SoundFont files from?

2) Would you need different SoundFont files for different songs, or would an account-wide setting be good enough?
Title: Re: SMF support?
Post by: Gusto on March 30, 2018, 06:17:51 AM
Awesome was waiting for this you rock. I paid for the otheir app however would rather use yours. I already gave 5 star review but will update to a more ecstatic review.  8)

So this will include midi file attachment per song ie as a midi player ?

Please allow default sound font system wide, with option to add another selection per song.

Would be amazing if you allow select midi player to select a track to midi out. This would allow the app to use a drum app like Soft Drummer for the drum sections.

This will truly make your app one of a kind for practice, rehearsals and setups  example test drum sounds on a mixer without having entire band ready.

You rock!!
Title: Re: SMF support?
Post by: Gusto on May 02, 2018, 07:07:18 AM
Also thought if there can be sheet music or music linked to the midi file playing
ie maybe can use automation to show lines/sheet music
but would be out of this world to follow a sheet music/lyric as it plays
Title: Re: SMF support?
Post by: arlo on May 02, 2018, 10:16:23 AM
QuoteSo this will include midi file attachment per song ie as a midi player?

Yes, you will be able to attach SMF files to songs, the same way you can do with audio recordings. Basically SMF becomes a supported audio format alongside MP3, AIF, etc.

QuotePlease allow default sound font system wide, with option to add another selection per song.

Initially you can just have one SoundFont selected in your settings, but adding more SoundFonts at the song level is on my wish list.

QuoteAlso thought if there can be sheet music or music linked to the midi file playing
ie maybe can use automation to show lines/sheet music

The new functionality will also support MIDI data files to send commands to other devices in real time. Ultimately I'd like to let MIDI commands in the attached file drive actions in the app -- so you could build a MIDI file as an alternative to an automation track. But there's a problem I would need to solve with that first. Until then, you could do this with an automation track.
Title: Re: SMF support?
Post by: Gusto on May 03, 2018, 09:50:07 PM
Awesome  8)
Any chance to get midi channels setup per song as below

Quote from: Gusto on March 30, 2018, 06:17:51 AM
Would be amazing if you allow select midi player to select a track to midi out. This would allow the app to use a drum app like Soft Drummer for the drum sections.
Eg
Midi track instrument  1 - GM Instrument A
Midi track instrument  2 - GM Instrument B
Midi track instrument  3 - midi channel 2 out

Would allow drum tracks or any instrument to be played by any supporter midi app/hardware

Please
Title: Re: SMF support?
Post by: arlo on May 04, 2018, 04:18:58 PM
What do you mean by "GSM Instrument"? That those tracks would play with the built-in synthesizer?
Title: Re: SMF support?
Post by: Gusto on May 05, 2018, 06:25:44 AM
Eg general song setup for all songs default

Track 1 violin - loaded soundfont instrument 2 (violin 2)
Track 2 piano - loaded soundfont instrument 5 (grand piano)
Track 3 drum -  midi channel 4 out (to coremidi app eg Soft Drummer app ios)

As you know soundfonts Can vary and be custom made so general and song specific selection would be great

Eg song 5 custom setting:

Track 1 as above
Track 2 instrument piano- Mute
Track 3 as above

So you can play track 2 yourself, and this should be included with volume settings per instrument per song
Title: Re: SMF support?
Post by: arlo on June 11, 2018, 12:35:01 AM
In the new app version released today, you can attach an SMF file (.mid) to a song and play it back just as you would with any recording. This should eliminate the need for another app like Sweet MIDI Player. This requires the Advanced Audio upgrade. Details are in "To play music from a Standard MIDI File" on the Sending MIDI page:

http://www.arlomedia.com/apps/setlistmaker/tutorials/sending_MIDI.html
Title: Re: SMF support?
Post by: lbolen on January 28, 2019, 10:50:23 AM
Wow, sweet! Haven't logged in for a while, great to see this added capability!

I've since upgraded to BandHelper; and I've noticed that this is in BandHelper as well!

Les
Title: Re: SMF support?
Post by: arlo on May 20, 2019, 09:48:47 AM
Quote from: Gusto on March 30, 2018, 06:17:51 AM
Please allow default sound font system wide, with option to add another selection per song.

This is included in yesterday's version 4.0 release:

http://www.bandhelper.com/support/release_notes.html
Title: Re: SMF support?
Post by: arlo on December 13, 2022, 01:06:24 PM
Quote from: Gusto on May 02, 2018, 07:07:18 AM
Also thought if there can be sheet music or music linked to the midi file playing
ie maybe can use automation to show lines/sheet music
but would be out of this world to follow a sheet music/lyric as it plays

In the new app version 2022-12-12 released today, you can use a standard MIDI file instead of an automation track to trigger any app action listed on the Settings > Remote Control page. This includes scrolling to pages or markers, but not lyrics highlighting because that requires a line number value that remote control doesn't support.

To use this new capability, you need to set Settings > Audio & MIDI > Send SMF Data To Port to Set List Maker. This means you cannot send MIDI data from an SMF to other devices while also sending it back into Set List Maker. If the port is set to anything other than Set List Maker, the app will not respond to its own SMF files.
Title: Re: SMF support?
Post by: arlo on January 15, 2023, 02:33:29 PM
Quote from: Gusto on May 02, 2018, 07:07:18 AM
Also thought if there can be sheet music or music linked to the midi file playing
ie maybe can use automation to show lines/sheet music
but would be out of this world to follow a sheet music/lyric as it plays

In today's new app versions, you can use the Lyrics Line Number remote control action to select a line of lyrics based on a MIDI program change or song select messages. If you use a program change message, bank numbers will be ignored.